In this candid conversation, host Marcy Young welcomes two special guests: her husband, Ira Young, and Leo Gertner, husband of active MitoAction community member Rachel P. They share how their relationships began, the moment mito entered the picture, and what “we’re in this together” looks like over years of marriage, moves, careers, and raising kids. Leo reflects on learning about Rachel’s diagnosis early in their dating and the patience and experimentation that followed; Ira describes walking alongside Marcy through testing and a winding path to answers.
Together they open up about the daily realities—planning around seating and standing, pacing weekends, dividing household and parenting tasks, navigating city vs. suburban life, and making space for rest without guilt. They talk about talking (or not) with friends and family, how kids naturally lean on each parent in different ways, the background hum of uncertainty about the future, and why community support matters. It’s an honest, empathetic look at partnership, caregiving, and choosing gratitude amid a life that isn’t always simple.
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